1 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:11,020 foreign 2 00:00:36,170 --> 00:00:16,310 [Music] 3 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:36,180 behind the scenes of UFO cover-up live 4 00:00:41,869 --> 00:00:39,600 part 2 by Charles Lear in last week's 5 00:00:43,970 --> 00:00:41,879 blog we introduced two people Richard 6 00:00:46,069 --> 00:00:43,980 Dodie's self-professed Air Force office 7 00:00:48,830 --> 00:00:46,079 of special investigations disinformation 8 00:00:51,290 --> 00:00:48,840 agent and William Moore a UFO researcher 9 00:00:53,150 --> 00:00:51,300 and co-author of the 1980 book the 10 00:00:55,130 --> 00:00:53,160 Roswell incident who had a profound 11 00:00:57,830 --> 00:00:55,140 influence on the UFO narrative in the 12 00:01:01,549 --> 00:00:57,840 1980s that culminated in a television 13 00:01:04,369 --> 00:01:01,559 presentation UFO cover-up live what was 14 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:04,379 discussed scripted on the show was the 15 00:01:08,929 --> 00:01:06,720 now familiar Narrative of Gray's flying 16 00:01:11,149 --> 00:01:08,939 saucers government recovery of Crash 17 00:01:13,550 --> 00:01:11,159 debris in alien bodies and subsequent 18 00:01:15,410 --> 00:01:13,560 cover-up more indotive since come 19 00:01:16,490 --> 00:01:15,420 forward as having been Partners in what 20 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:16,500 they claimed was a government 21 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:18,479 disinformation program targeting 22 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:21,299 ufologists we closed with the hypothesis 23 00:01:25,370 --> 00:01:23,700 that Dodie was acting on his own and 24 00:01:27,230 --> 00:01:25,380 that more played along because he had a 25 00:01:29,270 --> 00:01:27,240 need to believe and stood to make some 26 00:01:31,010 --> 00:01:29,280 money from the inside information that 27 00:01:32,929 --> 00:01:31,020 Dodie was feeding him and his fellow 28 00:01:35,090 --> 00:01:32,939 researchers this week we'll look at 29 00:01:37,850 --> 00:01:35,100 evidence to support that hypothesis 30 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:37,860 because Dodie has never confessed acting 31 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:39,600 on his own when he spread disinformation 32 00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:42,000 throughout the UFO community and the Air 33 00:01:46,249 --> 00:01:44,159 Force has never confirmed nor denied 34 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:46,259 that he was acting on orders the 35 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:47,520 following should be looked at as 36 00:01:52,190 --> 00:01:50,159 speculation or a thought experiment to 37 00:01:54,830 --> 00:01:52,200 begin we need to explore the backgrounds 38 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:54,840 of Dodie and more more had a history of 39 00:01:59,630 --> 00:01:57,119 promoting fantastic stories based on 40 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:59,640 questionable anecdotal evidence and one 41 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:01,920 in particular based on a tale told by a 42 00:02:06,230 --> 00:02:04,079 man who later confessed he made the 43 00:02:09,290 --> 00:02:06,240 story up before the Roswell incident 44 00:02:12,050 --> 00:02:09,300 Moore and berlitz co-authored the 1979 45 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:12,060 book The Philadelphia Experiment more is 46 00:02:17,150 --> 00:02:15,000 listed before berlitz in the byline the 47 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:17,160 story is that there was an experiment in 48 00:02:21,949 --> 00:02:19,200 Philadelphia Waters the Delaware River 49 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:21,959 where U.S Navy ship was instantly 50 00:02:25,970 --> 00:02:23,520 transported from in stock in 51 00:02:28,670 --> 00:02:25,980 Philadelphia to a dock in the Norfolk 52 00:02:30,470 --> 00:02:28,680 Newport News Portsmouth area the story 53 00:02:33,410 --> 00:02:30,480 comes from a letter presented in the 54 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:33,420 book with the date given As Days Later 55 00:02:39,890 --> 00:02:36,500 after a previous letter dated January 13 56 00:02:43,130 --> 00:02:39,900 1956 the letters are from Carl Allen 57 00:02:45,410 --> 00:02:43,140 also known as Carlos alende to Morris K 58 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:45,420 Jessup and are the Genesis of the story 59 00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:47,519 that more in berlitz support with 60 00:02:52,070 --> 00:02:50,160 anecdotal and circumstantial evidence I 61 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:52,080 went Allende walked into the 62 00:02:56,690 --> 00:02:53,700 headquarters of the aerial phenomena 63 00:02:58,430 --> 00:02:56,700 research organization in 1969 and 64 00:03:01,210 --> 00:02:58,440 confessed that the letters were a hoax 65 00:03:04,729 --> 00:03:01,220 and this was reported in the July August 66 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:04,739 1969 apro Borden there's mention of this 67 00:03:09,309 --> 00:03:06,900 in chapter 6 of the book where it is 68 00:03:12,050 --> 00:03:09,319 described as a so-called confession 69 00:03:13,729 --> 00:03:12,060 Dodie's background can be examined by 70 00:03:16,009 --> 00:03:13,739 looking at his U.S Air Force service 71 00:03:18,530 --> 00:03:16,019 records and New Mexico State Police 72 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:18,540 personnel file his Air Force Duty 73 00:03:22,009 --> 00:03:20,400 history shows he worked in law 74 00:03:24,530 --> 00:03:22,019 enforcement for his entire military 75 00:03:27,530 --> 00:03:24,540 career and spent his final year as a 76 00:03:29,869 --> 00:03:27,540 Food Services specialist this seems like 77 00:03:31,850 --> 00:03:29,879 an odd assignment for a CIA trained 78 00:03:34,970 --> 00:03:31,860 disinformation agent with highly 79 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:34,980 classified information about UFOs his 80 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:36,720 personnel file from his time with the 81 00:03:41,050 --> 00:03:39,360 state police shows nothing unusual and 82 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:41,060 includes a reprimand for an accident 83 00:03:46,610 --> 00:03:43,860 involving a department vehicle and two 84 00:03:48,530 --> 00:03:46,620 notices of suspensions without pay one 85 00:03:50,750 --> 00:03:48,540 in two days respectively for the 86 00:03:52,789 --> 00:03:50,760 accident mentioned in the reprimand and 87 00:03:54,890 --> 00:03:52,799 an additional accident Dodie doesn't 88 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:54,900 seem to have received any preferential 89 00:03:59,089 --> 00:03:57,120 treatment from the Department one thing 90 00:04:02,449 --> 00:03:59,099 to consider about Dodie's claim of being 91 00:04:04,190 --> 00:04:02,459 a CIA trained afosi disinformation agent 92 00:04:06,949 --> 00:04:04,200 is that a person in such a position 93 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:06,959 would be compromising such a program or 94 00:04:11,149 --> 00:04:09,060 future similar efforts and would be 95 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:11,159 likely breaking a secrecy Oath by 96 00:04:15,530 --> 00:04:13,200 revealing their covert activities in a 97 00:04:17,509 --> 00:04:15,540 public forum the reader is now invited 98 00:04:19,610 --> 00:04:17,519 to consider the following events from 99 00:04:22,009 --> 00:04:19,620 the perspective that Dodie was acting on 100 00:04:24,469 --> 00:04:22,019 his own and feeding more information he 101 00:04:26,689 --> 00:04:24,479 invented and that more was less than 102 00:04:29,090 --> 00:04:26,699 diligent in his research and possibly 103 00:04:32,210 --> 00:04:29,100 culpable in promoting a hoax that put 104 00:04:35,510 --> 00:04:32,220 private UFO Research into a tailspin at 105 00:04:37,850 --> 00:04:35,520 the 2009 mufon Symposium Brad Sparks and 106 00:04:40,370 --> 00:04:37,860 Barry Greenwood presented a paper titled 107 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:40,380 the secret Pratt tapes and the origins 108 00:04:45,650 --> 00:04:43,199 of mj-12 the paper begins with the 109 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:45,660 information that Robert Pratt a reporter 110 00:04:50,030 --> 00:04:48,000 author and former mufon journal editor 111 00:04:52,430 --> 00:04:50,040 recorded phone conversations with more 112 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:52,440 without telling him they were working on 113 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,120 a book that would reveal information 114 00:04:58,969 --> 00:04:56,639 more was getting from Dodie Pratt 115 00:05:01,010 --> 00:04:58,979 suggested it be fictionalized and more 116 00:05:03,650 --> 00:05:01,020 begrudgingly went along with that idea 117 00:05:06,230 --> 00:05:03,660 their work on the book fizzled out by 118 00:05:08,150 --> 00:05:06,240 1984 and nothing from it was published 119 00:05:10,550 --> 00:05:08,160 they were discussing Moore's recent 120 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:10,560 meetings with Dodie Sparks in Greenwood 121 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:12,720 describe more being in contact with the 122 00:05:18,110 --> 00:05:15,120 mysterious Air Force Colonel codenamed 123 00:05:21,350 --> 00:05:18,120 Falcon and that Dodie codenamed Sparrow 124 00:05:23,810 --> 00:05:21,360 was acting as the middleman according to 125 00:05:26,330 --> 00:05:23,820 Sparks Moore told him he was passing to 126 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:26,340 Dodie every scrap of information he and 127 00:05:31,249 --> 00:05:28,560 his fellow Roswell investigator nuclear 128 00:05:33,590 --> 00:05:31,259 physicist Stanton T Friedman collected 129 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:33,600 on their Roswell investigations and on 130 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:36,780 UFO research and ufologists the readers 131 00:05:42,590 --> 00:05:39,600 told that evidently Dodie the colonel 132 00:05:44,930 --> 00:05:42,600 and the afosi set up a feedback loop 133 00:05:47,090 --> 00:05:44,940 where they gave forged documents to more 134 00:05:49,310 --> 00:05:47,100 that supported the information Moore 135 00:05:51,469 --> 00:05:49,320 gave to Dodie what was being developed 136 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:51,479 in this Loop was the story that the 137 00:05:55,850 --> 00:05:53,520 government had recovered crash saucers 138 00:05:58,490 --> 00:05:55,860 live and dead aliens and that there was 139 00:06:00,230 --> 00:05:58,500 a secret group known as mj-12 that 140 00:06:02,749 --> 00:06:00,240 prepared briefings for every U.S 141 00:06:04,670 --> 00:06:02,759 president since Harry Truman the first 142 00:06:06,770 --> 00:06:04,680 briefing document was said to have been 143 00:06:09,469 --> 00:06:06,780 updated for each president and one 144 00:06:11,629 --> 00:06:09,479 reportedly prepared by mj-12 according 145 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:11,639 to the cover page for Jimmy Carter in 146 00:06:16,670 --> 00:06:14,759 June 1977 was called the Aquarius 147 00:06:18,650 --> 00:06:16,680 document because the subject of the 148 00:06:21,830 --> 00:06:18,660 briefing is identified as project 149 00:06:25,029 --> 00:06:21,840 Aquarius the document is included in the 150 00:06:28,070 --> 00:06:25,039 paper and contains this Revelation Ebe 151 00:06:30,710 --> 00:06:28,080 reported that two thousand years ago his 152 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:30,720 ancestors planted a human creature on 153 00:06:35,749 --> 00:06:32,880 earth to assist the inhabitants of Earth 154 00:06:37,969 --> 00:06:35,759 in developing a civilization one thing 155 00:06:40,370 --> 00:06:37,979 to notice is that Earth is used as a 156 00:06:43,010 --> 00:06:40,380 proper noun in this context and is not 157 00:06:44,749 --> 00:06:43,020 capitalized in the document there are 158 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:44,759 also two punctuation errors in the 159 00:06:48,890 --> 00:06:46,560 briefing in the form of a missing 160 00:06:51,110 --> 00:06:48,900 apostrophe where aliens is being used in 161 00:06:52,670 --> 00:06:51,120 the possessive air years like these have 162 00:06:55,370 --> 00:06:52,680 been noted throughout the documents 163 00:06:58,189 --> 00:06:55,380 related to mk12 by various researchers 164 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:58,199 such as Jacques valet there is also an 165 00:07:03,230 --> 00:07:00,960 aquarius teletype dated November 80. 166 00:07:06,050 --> 00:07:03,240 near the bottom of section 2 just before 167 00:07:08,450 --> 00:07:06,060 section 4 there is no Section 3 for some 168 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:08,460 reason there is this line the official 169 00:07:13,309 --> 00:07:10,560 U.S government policy and results of 170 00:07:16,070 --> 00:07:13,319 project Aquarius is note the grammar 171 00:07:18,050 --> 00:07:16,080 error still classified top secret with 172 00:07:19,790 --> 00:07:18,060 no dissemination outside official 173 00:07:22,850 --> 00:07:19,800 intelligence channels and with 174 00:07:25,309 --> 00:07:22,860 restricted access to mj-12 this was a 175 00:07:27,710 --> 00:07:25,319 very early mention of mj-12 and possibly 176 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:27,720 the first seen by researchers as the 177 00:07:31,490 --> 00:07:29,520 teletype made the rounds before the 178 00:07:33,409 --> 00:07:31,500 briefing document Kevin Randall 179 00:07:35,930 --> 00:07:33,419 describes the teletypes provenance 180 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:35,940 according to Randall Moore said he had 181 00:07:40,129 --> 00:07:37,919 seen the original document and that he 182 00:07:43,490 --> 00:07:40,139 had been handed a retyped version of the 183 00:07:45,370 --> 00:07:43,500 document on March 2nd 1981 and told to 184 00:07:47,689 --> 00:07:45,380 give it to researcher Paul benowitz 185 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:47,699 benowitz never showed the document to 186 00:07:52,610 --> 00:07:49,919 anyone so his having it didn't serve any 187 00:07:55,129 --> 00:07:52,620 purpose the document made its way into 188 00:07:58,010 --> 00:07:55,139 the UFO community Through Peter gersten 189 00:07:59,930 --> 00:07:58,020 of citizens against UFO secrecy Moore 190 00:08:01,790 --> 00:07:59,940 claimed that he had three copies and 191 00:08:03,370 --> 00:08:01,800 that one was in a briefcase that was 192 00:08:06,170 --> 00:08:03,380 stolen from his car in San Francisco 193 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:06,180 after he had had a meeting with Kirsten 194 00:08:11,450 --> 00:08:09,240 according to Moore he never received a 195 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:11,460 satisfactory explanation of how he 196 00:08:16,670 --> 00:08:14,220 gersten received the document this was 197 00:08:18,770 --> 00:08:16,680 the beginning of the mj-12 Mythos and 198 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:18,780 just before the Majestic 12 documents 199 00:08:23,809 --> 00:08:21,120 hit the scene these caused a great deal 200 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:23,819 of excitement among UFO researchers if 201 00:08:27,409 --> 00:08:25,680 these could be shown to be real they 202 00:08:29,749 --> 00:08:27,419 would prove that the government had 203 00:08:31,909 --> 00:08:29,759 recovered saucers and aliens and was 204 00:08:34,010 --> 00:08:31,919 hiding this from the public the first 205 00:08:36,290 --> 00:08:34,020 indication that the documents were 206 00:08:38,810 --> 00:08:36,300 forged is that they came in an envelope 207 00:08:41,149 --> 00:08:38,820 with a postmark from Albuquerque home of 208 00:08:50,889 --> 00:08:41,159 Kirtland Air Force Base where Dodie was 209 00:08:50,899 --> 00:08:55,050 thank you